http://infowar.tribe.net/thread/15074cec-d3e7-4387-81b4-378ef3473a47?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://infowar.tribe.net/thread/15074cec-d3e7-4387-81b4-378ef3473a47#edf4c033-e4b5-45a8-a7e1-05f8edfda8b5 In Huna we have a saying "Effectiveness is the Measure of Truth" I've worked with the Dreamspell since '92 and have found the information to be extremely effective. Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:43:44 GMT http://infowar.tribe.net/thread/15074cec-d3e7-4387-81b4-378ef3473a47#edf4c033-e4b5-45a8-a7e1-05f8edfda8b5 Brian 2007-10-10T00:43:44Z http://infowar.tribe.net/thread/15074cec-d3e7-4387-81b4-378ef3473a47#eba122cf-9795-48b1-add7-8f3795258133 more than one paradigm can be "correct" ~ the point is that 'time' & the ways we count it are changing love all-ways, mem Wed, 03 Oct 2007 01:35:48 GMT http://infowar.tribe.net/thread/15074cec-d3e7-4387-81b4-378ef3473a47#eba122cf-9795-48b1-add7-8f3795258133 MaryEllen 2007-10-03T01:35:48Z http://infowar.tribe.net/thread/15074cec-d3e7-4387-81b4-378ef3473a47#b051e892-be76-4ad1-9f05-7398b38628f0 Hello My Friends, Heads up in case you didn't get the memo: Dreamspel is a hoax. I had a funny feeling about Dreamspell from the get go but only recenly were my suspicions confirmed. I felt that Dreamspell just couldn't be right because it contradicted Ian Lungold's and the original Mayan Long Count. I am constantly surprised by how many people tell me they know their mayan horoscope and it actually turns out it's just the spell of a dream, an illusion, a hoax. This article by renowned astrologer Robert Wilkinson on Dreamspell confirmed it for me: " I found that the Dreamspell "Mayan calendar" being used is NOT the true Mayan calendar, was never used by the Maya, and is only somewhat related to the original way the Maya recorded time." More after the jump: http://www.aquariuspapers.com/astrology/2007/09/a-new-look-at-t.html The true and original long count can be found at the following link: http://www.mayanmajix.com/TZOLKIN/DT/DT.html Don't forget to click on the banner below to find out what your Mayan horoscope is. For an even deeper look into your mayan archetype, I have really enjoyed this book: http://www.amazon.com/Mayan-Oracle-Return-Numbers-Mystery/dp/0939680866/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/102-5433175-5126539?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1191294543&sr=8-2 For an understanding into the meaning of the Mayan Calendar as a measure of consiousness, Ian Lungold's lectures are available: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1030536695965417017&q=video+ian+lungold&total=45&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0 Let's get the true word out. This is too important to fudge around with. Those Dreamspell quacks can take their calendar and put it right up the same cavity it came from. Viva the calendar. Viva the truth. With Love, BtrflyJens Tue, 02 Oct 2007 03:25:28 GMT http://infowar.tribe.net/thread/15074cec-d3e7-4387-81b4-378ef3473a47#b051e892-be76-4ad1-9f05-7398b38628f0 BtRfLyJens 2007-10-02T03:25:28Z